What is a surprise is that we don’t really need to spend ages arguing over what the definition of a puzzle is, which I think shows personal growth. Well done us! Asides this week include what role Matthew you fill on the team in a heist movie, Nate vs. Rufus Hound, and what the hell is the Riddler’s whole deal about, anyway? Also: please give us creative control of all major IPs in cinema and games, so we can remake them to be about the drink Rio Tropical. You can listen above, or on on Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, or Pocket Casts. You can find the RSS feed here, and you can discuss the episode on our Discord channel, which has a dedicated room for podcast chat. Music is by Jack de Quidt. The smartest people wear t-shirts we helped design. Links Nate likes surprise puzzles being sprung on him in Total War: Warhammer II. Matthew and Nate also bring up some of the game modes and additions to Hearthstone and Gwent. I’m a big fan of the red-apple-tree-puzzles in The Witness and the moment when you figure out who the artist is in Return Of The Obra Dinn. Matthew likes the weird quarantine puzzle Metal Gear Solid V. The way you get the map you need in The Curse Of Monkey Island is gross, but I love it. Recommendations this week are the cool heist drama on Netflix, Money Heist, the Cracking The Cryptic YouTube channel, and the Age Of Reptiles comic series by Ricardo Delgado